Friday, July 1, 2016
Paul Ryan is to blame for importing TB to Wisconsin,, Migrants Bring Multi-Drug Resistant TB to Wisconsin, Lideral Are Lying Again
I am No Fan Of Paul Ryan, but when you see liberal's lying you got to call it out!
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/01/challenger-paul-ryan-to-blame-for-importing-tb-to-wisconsin-after-40-percent-increase-in-2015/
Nehlen is running against Ryan in the Republican primary. It will be held on August 9 in Wisconsin’s First Congressional District, which “encompasses Kenosha and Racine counties and portions of Milwaukee, Rock, Walworth and Waukesha counties
“Paul has voted for every budget that has funded the federal refugee resettlement program, including the most recent ‘Cromnibus Budget’ he rammed through as Speaker,” Nehlen adds.
“Federal taxpayers are paying resettlement agencies, like Lutheran Social Services of Wisconsin, more than $1 billion per year to resettle refugees with high rates of active tuberculosis across the country, and Paul Ryan is responsible for that,” Nehlen adds.
“A vote for Paul Ryan is a vote to bring more TB to Wisconsin’s First Congressional District,” Nehlen tells Breitbart News.
A report from the Wisconsin Department of Health Services released in April confirms Nehlen’s claim that the number of active tuberculosis (TB) cases increased by 43 percent in one year, from 48 in 2014 to 69 in 2015.
Most of the increase in 21 active cases of TB is due to a spike in the number of foreign-born cases of TB, which increased from 33 in 2014 to 49 in 2015, an increase of 16 in foreign-born cases in one year, more than 70 percent of the total increase.
At least four of the 69 cases of TB in Wisconsin in 2015 were diagnosed and treated in the First Congressional District, which Paul Ryan represents: three cases were in Racine County and one was in Kenosha County. In addition, the First Congressional District contains part of Milwaukee County, where 23 cases of active TB were diagnosed, and part of Waukesha County, where two cases of active TB were diagnosed.
The increase in the number of active TB cases in Wisconsin and the number of foreign-born active TB cases in the state in 2015 comes in the same year that the number of refugees arriving in the state from Burma, a country with very high rates of active TB and one of the highest rates of multi-drug resistant (MDR) TB in the world increased by over 67 percent, from 557 in 2014 to 935 in 2015.
Overall, the number of refugees sent to Wisconsin by the federal government increased by 25 percent in one year, from 1,132 in 2014 to 1,415 in 2015.
The number of Burmese refugees sent to Wisconsin has been steadily rising each year since 2009, when 338 of the 536 refugees sent to Wisconsin (63 percent of that year’s total) came from Burma.
Burmese refugees as a percentage of total refugees increased from 49 percent (557 out of 1132) in 2014 to 66 percent (935 out of 1,415) in 2015.
In 2012, the percentage of all refugees sent to Wisconsin by the federal government who came from Burma was also 49 percent (387 out of 785).
It is not clear how many of the 49 cases of foreign-born TB in Wisconsin in 2015 were from recently arrived refugees, which the Department of Health Services defines as those who have lived in the United States for less than five years, and how many are from long-time refugees, legal immigrants, temporary immigrants, or illegal immigrants.
The TB rate for new refugees—those living in the United States for less than 5 years—in Wisconsin is 70 per 100,000, which is more than 200 times greater than the TB rate for American-born residents of Wisconsin, which is 0.33 per 100,000, according to the Wisconsin Department of Health Services.
The incidence of TB among Burmese refugees is very high—53.2 per 100,000. Likewise, Somali refugees have a high incidence of TB—60.8 per 100,000.
Between 2005 and 2014, the number of active TB cases reported in Wisconsin among foreign-born residents from the Hmong community (from Laos through Thailand) was 69. The number of active TB cases among foreign-born residents from Burma was 12.
Breitbart News asked the Wisconsin Department of Health Services to provide details on the increase in active TB cases in Wisconsin in 2015 but has not received a response.
As Breitbart News reported previously, the rise of MDR TB in Wisconsin has been a public health problem in the Badger State for a number of years.
In the eight years between 2005 and 2012, a total of twenty cases of MDR TB, all foreign-born, were diagnosed and treated in Wisconsin, at an estimated cost to the taxpayers of Wisconsin of $3 million.
Then, in 2013, a MDR TB outbreak among resettled refugees in Sheboygan, Wisconsin forced the Wisconsin State Legislature to appropriate an additional $5 million to deal with the public health crisis there.
Only one of the nine cases of active TB diagnosed as part of that outbreak turned out to be MDR.
Nonetheless, a TB outbreak of that magnitude stretched the ability of state and local resources to cope.
MDR TB in Wisconsin went from three cases in 2014 to four cases in 2015, according to the Wisconsin Department of Health Services, about double the national rate.
To put that number in perspective, Burma averages about 9,000 new cases of MDR TB each year.
“Not only is Paul Ryan importing TB and MDR TB to Wisconsin and the First Congressional District using federal tax dollars, he is forcing Wisconsin residents and his constituents to pay for the exorbitant health care costs associated with the treatment of these foreign-born cases of active TB to be paid for out of their state and local tax payments,” challenger Nehlen adds.
The primary in Wisconsin will be held on August 9.
Two refugees and a foreign student on a visa brought multi-drug resistant (MDR) tuberculosis (TB) to Milwaukee, Wisconsin in 2009 and 2011, according to a 2014 article in an epidemiology publication written with the cooperation of the doctors who treated them.
The introduction of MDR TB to the United States represents a serious public health threat, since its successful treatment is uncertain and very expensive. Active TB can usually be treated successfully in six to nine months at a cost of $17,000 per patient, according to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), but MDR TB treatment costs more than $150,000 per patient and can take between 20 and 26 months.http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/01/challenger-paul-ryan-to-blame-for-importing-tb-to-wisconsin-after-40-percent-increase-in-2015/
Nehlen is running against Ryan in the Republican primary. It will be held on August 9 in Wisconsin’s First Congressional District, which “encompasses Kenosha and Racine counties and portions of Milwaukee, Rock, Walworth and Waukesha counties
“Paul has voted for every budget that has funded the federal refugee resettlement program, including the most recent ‘Cromnibus Budget’ he rammed through as Speaker,” Nehlen adds.
“Federal taxpayers are paying resettlement agencies, like Lutheran Social Services of Wisconsin, more than $1 billion per year to resettle refugees with high rates of active tuberculosis across the country, and Paul Ryan is responsible for that,” Nehlen adds.
“A vote for Paul Ryan is a vote to bring more TB to Wisconsin’s First Congressional District,” Nehlen tells Breitbart News.
A report from the Wisconsin Department of Health Services released in April confirms Nehlen’s claim that the number of active tuberculosis (TB) cases increased by 43 percent in one year, from 48 in 2014 to 69 in 2015.
Most of the increase in 21 active cases of TB is due to a spike in the number of foreign-born cases of TB, which increased from 33 in 2014 to 49 in 2015, an increase of 16 in foreign-born cases in one year, more than 70 percent of the total increase.
At least four of the 69 cases of TB in Wisconsin in 2015 were diagnosed and treated in the First Congressional District, which Paul Ryan represents: three cases were in Racine County and one was in Kenosha County. In addition, the First Congressional District contains part of Milwaukee County, where 23 cases of active TB were diagnosed, and part of Waukesha County, where two cases of active TB were diagnosed.
The increase in the number of active TB cases in Wisconsin and the number of foreign-born active TB cases in the state in 2015 comes in the same year that the number of refugees arriving in the state from Burma, a country with very high rates of active TB and one of the highest rates of multi-drug resistant (MDR) TB in the world increased by over 67 percent, from 557 in 2014 to 935 in 2015.
Overall, the number of refugees sent to Wisconsin by the federal government increased by 25 percent in one year, from 1,132 in 2014 to 1,415 in 2015.
The number of Burmese refugees sent to Wisconsin has been steadily rising each year since 2009, when 338 of the 536 refugees sent to Wisconsin (63 percent of that year’s total) came from Burma.
Burmese refugees as a percentage of total refugees increased from 49 percent (557 out of 1132) in 2014 to 66 percent (935 out of 1,415) in 2015.
In 2012, the percentage of all refugees sent to Wisconsin by the federal government who came from Burma was also 49 percent (387 out of 785).
It is not clear how many of the 49 cases of foreign-born TB in Wisconsin in 2015 were from recently arrived refugees, which the Department of Health Services defines as those who have lived in the United States for less than five years, and how many are from long-time refugees, legal immigrants, temporary immigrants, or illegal immigrants.
The TB rate for new refugees—those living in the United States for less than 5 years—in Wisconsin is 70 per 100,000, which is more than 200 times greater than the TB rate for American-born residents of Wisconsin, which is 0.33 per 100,000, according to the Wisconsin Department of Health Services.
The incidence of TB among Burmese refugees is very high—53.2 per 100,000. Likewise, Somali refugees have a high incidence of TB—60.8 per 100,000.
Between 2005 and 2014, the number of active TB cases reported in Wisconsin among foreign-born residents from the Hmong community (from Laos through Thailand) was 69. The number of active TB cases among foreign-born residents from Burma was 12.
Breitbart News asked the Wisconsin Department of Health Services to provide details on the increase in active TB cases in Wisconsin in 2015 but has not received a response.
As Breitbart News reported previously, the rise of MDR TB in Wisconsin has been a public health problem in the Badger State for a number of years.
In the eight years between 2005 and 2012, a total of twenty cases of MDR TB, all foreign-born, were diagnosed and treated in Wisconsin, at an estimated cost to the taxpayers of Wisconsin of $3 million.
Then, in 2013, a MDR TB outbreak among resettled refugees in Sheboygan, Wisconsin forced the Wisconsin State Legislature to appropriate an additional $5 million to deal with the public health crisis there.
Only one of the nine cases of active TB diagnosed as part of that outbreak turned out to be MDR.
Nonetheless, a TB outbreak of that magnitude stretched the ability of state and local resources to cope.
MDR TB in Wisconsin went from three cases in 2014 to four cases in 2015, according to the Wisconsin Department of Health Services, about double the national rate.
To put that number in perspective, Burma averages about 9,000 new cases of MDR TB each year.
“Not only is Paul Ryan importing TB and MDR TB to Wisconsin and the First Congressional District using federal tax dollars, he is forcing Wisconsin residents and his constituents to pay for the exorbitant health care costs associated with the treatment of these foreign-born cases of active TB to be paid for out of their state and local tax payments,” challenger Nehlen adds.
The primary in Wisconsin will be held on August 9.
Voters Doubt Clinton's Honesty About Benghazi.
Hillary Clinton is scheduled to testify today before a special congressional committee about the attack in Benghazi that happened while she was secretary of State. Clinton claims the probe is politically motivated, but most voters don't think she's telling the whole story about the incident in Libya three years ago.
A Full Measure-Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 52% of Likely U.S. Voters believe Clinton has not been honest in her disclosures and testimony related to the attack in Benghazi in September 2012 that led to the murder of the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans. Just 27% think she has been honest during the investigations. Twenty-two percent (22%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Rasmussen Reports partnered with Sinclair Broadcasting Group on this survey featured on the latest edition of Sharyl Attkisson’s new program “Full Measure”. Tune in to “Full Measure” with Sharyl Attkisson, featuring “Full Measure-Rasmussen Reports” polling.
While it may not come as a surprise that most Republicans (71%) and voters not affiliated with either major party (61%) think Clinton hasn’t been honest, only 41% of voters in her own party think she has fully disclosed what she knows about the Benghazi incident. Twenty-six percent (26%) of Democrats think she hasn’t been honest, while one-out-of-three (33%) aren't sure.
Just 37% of all voters say they trust Clinton.
Voters are more convinced than ever that the Benghazi incident will hurt Clinton's bid for the White House, but they're almost evenly divided over whether the ongoing congressional investigation of the matter is aimed at the truth or is just politically motivated. Again, there is a noticeable partisan divide on the issue.
But Clinton sailed through the first Democratic debate last week with Benghazi a noticeable non-issue.
The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on September 28-29, 2015 by Full Measure-Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.
In recent months, much of the public controversy surrounding the Benghazi investigation has focused on the discovery of Clinton’s use of a private, non-government email server while she was secretary of State. The FBI is now investigating her use of the private server which is also the subject of several federal court cases. Fifty-two percent (52%) of voters believe Clinton’s use of the private server provider for issues at the highest levels of the U.S. government raises serious national security concerns, and 45% think she deliberately used the private email account to hide things from government oversight.
Fifty-nine percent (59%) think it’s likely Clinton broke the law by sending and receiving e-mails containing classified information through this private e-mail server.
Sizable pluralities of voters of all ages agree that Clinton has been dishonest about Benghazi, but older voters tend to give her the benefit of the doubt more than younger voters do.
Only 30% of men think Clinton has been honest, compared to 23% of women. But women are also twice as likely as men to be undecided on the question.
Just 25% of white voters think Clinton has been honest in the investigation, compared to 34% of black and Hispanic voters. Just 18% of other minority voters agree.
Last year, 72% of all voters said it is important to find out exactly what happened in Benghazi, and 51% believed the Obama administration’s handling of the incident merits further investigation.
Forty-six percent (46%) of all voters - and 24% of Democrats - think Clinton should suspend her campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination until all of the legal questions about her use of the private e-mail server are resolved.
Yet despite these issues, most Democrats still think their party's 2016 presidential nomination is Clinton’s to lose.
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/september_2015/voters_doubt_clinton_s_honesty_about_benghazi
49% Say Clinton Lied To Victims’ Families About Benghazi Attack
The final report released this week by the special congressional committee investigating the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya, hasn’t significantly changed voters’ opinions about how the incident will impact Hillary Clinton’s bid for the White House. Still, nearly half of voters believe the then-secretary of State lied to the victims’ families about the nature of the attack. (To survey question wording, click here.)
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The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on June 28-29, 2016 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/june_2016/49_say_clinton_lied_to_victims_families_about_benghazi_attack
White House Watch White House Watch: Trump 43%, Clinton 39%
he tables have turned in this week’s White House Watch.
After trailing Hillary Clinton by five points for the prior two weeks,
Donald Trump has now taken a four-point lead.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds Trump with 43% of the vote, while Clinton earns 39%. Twelve percent (12%) still like another candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Last week at this time, it was Clinton 44%, Trump 39%. This is Trump’s highest level of support in Rasmussen Reports’ matchups with Clinton since last October. His support has been hovering around the 40% mark since April, but it remains to be seen whether he’s just having a good week or this actually represents a real move forward among voters.
Trump now earns 75% support among his fellow Republicans and picks up 14% of the Democratic vote. Seventy-six percent (76%) of Democrats like Clinton, as do 10% of GOP voters. Both candidates face a sizable number of potential defections because of unhappiness with them in their own parties.
(More below)
Clinton appears to have emerged relatively unscathed from the release
this week of the House Select Committee on Benghazi’s report on her
actions as secretary of State in connection with the murder of the U.S.
ambassador to Libya and three other Americans by Islamic terrorists in
September 2012. Rasmussen Reports will be releasing new numbers on
Clinton and Benghazi at 10:30 a.m. Eastern today.
Trump made a major speech on jobs and trade on Tuesday that even the New York Times characterized as “perhaps the most forceful case he has made for the crux of his candidacy …. that the days of globalism have passed and that a new approach is necessary.” Some also speculate that last week’s vote in Great Britain to leave the European Union signals a rise of economic nationalism that is good for Trump. Despite the media panic and market swings that have resulted, Americans are not particularly worried that the “Brexit” will hurt them in the pocketbook.
The latest terrorist carnage - this week in Istanbul, Turkey - also may be helping Trump who is arguing for a harsher response to radical Islam than Clinton. Voters remain lukewarm about President Obama's national security policies and expect more of the same if Clinton moves back into the White House next January. Trump, if elected, will definitely change things, voters say, but not necessarily for the best.
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The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on June 28-29, 2016 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.
The U.S. economy historically has had an average annual growth rate of 3.3% but has fallen short of that number in every year of Obama’s presidency. Still, his fellow Democrats give the president positive marks for his economic performance and think Clinton would do more of the same. Trump is expected to make the economy better by all voters - except Democrats.
Trump how holds a 14-point lead among men, while Clinton leads by six among women. The candidates are tied among those under 40, while Trump leads among older voters.
Clinton continues to hold a wide lead among blacks. Trump leads among whites and other minority voters.
Among voters not affiliated with either major party, Trump leads by 18 points, but 28% of these voters like some other candidates or are undecided.
Eighty-nine percent (89%) of voters who Strongly Approve of the job Obama is doing choose Clinton. Trump has 86% support among those who Strongly Disapprove of the president’s job performance.
Events in recent weeks suggest that Trump is already running a third-party candidacy against the establishments of both the Democratic and Republican parties.
Clinton has called for more gun control following the recent terrorist killings in an Orlando, Florida nightclub; Trump disagrees. Support for additional gun control has risen to its highest level ever, but voters are evenly divided over whether more gun buying restrictions will help prevent future shootings like the one in Orlando.
Fewer voters than ever think the government gives the right amount of attention to the threat of Islamic terrorism here at home.
A tie vote in the U.S. Supreme Court last week upheld a lower court ruling that halted Obama’s plan to exempt millions of illegal immigrants from deportation. Clinton has vowed to take the president’s amnesty plan even further. Trump wants to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border and deport many of those who are here illegally. Most voters continue to oppose Obama’s plan as they have from the start and believe instead that the U.S. government needs to more aggressively deport illegal immigrants.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds Trump with 43% of the vote, while Clinton earns 39%. Twelve percent (12%) still like another candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
Last week at this time, it was Clinton 44%, Trump 39%. This is Trump’s highest level of support in Rasmussen Reports’ matchups with Clinton since last October. His support has been hovering around the 40% mark since April, but it remains to be seen whether he’s just having a good week or this actually represents a real move forward among voters.
Trump now earns 75% support among his fellow Republicans and picks up 14% of the Democratic vote. Seventy-six percent (76%) of Democrats like Clinton, as do 10% of GOP voters. Both candidates face a sizable number of potential defections because of unhappiness with them in their own parties.
(More below)
Trump made a major speech on jobs and trade on Tuesday that even the New York Times characterized as “perhaps the most forceful case he has made for the crux of his candidacy …. that the days of globalism have passed and that a new approach is necessary.” Some also speculate that last week’s vote in Great Britain to leave the European Union signals a rise of economic nationalism that is good for Trump. Despite the media panic and market swings that have resulted, Americans are not particularly worried that the “Brexit” will hurt them in the pocketbook.
The latest terrorist carnage - this week in Istanbul, Turkey - also may be helping Trump who is arguing for a harsher response to radical Islam than Clinton. Voters remain lukewarm about President Obama's national security policies and expect more of the same if Clinton moves back into the White House next January. Trump, if elected, will definitely change things, voters say, but not necessarily for the best.
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The survey of 1,000 Likely Voters was conducted on June 28-29, 2016 by Rasmussen Reports. The margin of sampling error is +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Field work for all Rasmussen Reports surveys is conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, LLC. See methodology.
The U.S. economy historically has had an average annual growth rate of 3.3% but has fallen short of that number in every year of Obama’s presidency. Still, his fellow Democrats give the president positive marks for his economic performance and think Clinton would do more of the same. Trump is expected to make the economy better by all voters - except Democrats.
Trump how holds a 14-point lead among men, while Clinton leads by six among women. The candidates are tied among those under 40, while Trump leads among older voters.
Clinton continues to hold a wide lead among blacks. Trump leads among whites and other minority voters.
Among voters not affiliated with either major party, Trump leads by 18 points, but 28% of these voters like some other candidates or are undecided.
Eighty-nine percent (89%) of voters who Strongly Approve of the job Obama is doing choose Clinton. Trump has 86% support among those who Strongly Disapprove of the president’s job performance.
Events in recent weeks suggest that Trump is already running a third-party candidacy against the establishments of both the Democratic and Republican parties.
Clinton has called for more gun control following the recent terrorist killings in an Orlando, Florida nightclub; Trump disagrees. Support for additional gun control has risen to its highest level ever, but voters are evenly divided over whether more gun buying restrictions will help prevent future shootings like the one in Orlando.
Fewer voters than ever think the government gives the right amount of attention to the threat of Islamic terrorism here at home.
A tie vote in the U.S. Supreme Court last week upheld a lower court ruling that halted Obama’s plan to exempt millions of illegal immigrants from deportation. Clinton has vowed to take the president’s amnesty plan even further. Trump wants to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border and deport many of those who are here illegally. Most voters continue to oppose Obama’s plan as they have from the start and believe instead that the U.S. government needs to more aggressively deport illegal immigrants.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch
White House Says Clinton Needs Attorney-Client Privilege For Impeachment Fight?
WASHINGTON (Aug. 21) -- In a strongly worded motion filed with the Supreme Court, the Clinton Administration Friday asked the justices to grant attorney-client privilege to White House lawyers dealing with President Bill Clinton, in part because of a predicted impeachment battle in Congress.
Arguing that those attorneys should have the same confidentiality private lawyers enjoy, the White House cited Independent Counsel Ken Starr's plans to "refer any evidence of potentially impeachable evidence directly to Congress."
In July the U.S. Court of Appeals upheld Judge Norma Holloway Johnson's decision that White House lawyers did not enjoy a privilege with the president while discussing private legal issues, such as the Monica Lewinsky investigation.
"We now stand upon the brink of the most serious confrontation between branches of our government contemplated in our constitutional order," the administration argued. "The president's need for confidential consultations with White House counsel in preparation for proceedings designed to remove him from office can scarcely be questioned."
Accompanying the Supreme Court motion was a statement from White House counsel Charles Ruff saying "...this position is firmly rooted in legal precedent and ultimately serves the public interest by ensuring fully-informed and accurate decision-making through frank and candid conversations between government officials and lawyers.
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Judge Johnson's initial ruling dealt with the grand jury testimony of presidential confidant and White House Deputy Counsel Bruce Lindsey. Lindsey had refused to answer Starr's questions about his conversations with the president. Starr subsequently subpoenaed Lanny Breuer, also a member of White House counsel's office.
Lewinsky's second appearance focuses on gifts
Meanwhile, CNN has learned that much of Lewinsky's second appearance before the federal grand jury this week involved "inconsistencies" between her testimony and the president's. Prosecutors were specifically interested in Lewinsky's account of the gifts Clinton gave her, sources say. | |
| Monica Lewinsky arrives at the federal courthouse Thursday for her second day of testimony before the grand jury. | |
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By now, no one disputes that Clinton gave Lewinsky small presents, including a book of poetry and a T-shirt. And no one disputes that the president talked about them with Lewinsky after the items were subpoenaed by Paula Jones' attorneys.
But at that point, the stories of the president and the former White House intern have subtle differences.
Lewinsky testified that the president told her she didn't need to turn over the gifts if she didn't "have them," sources say.
The president testified he told Lewinsky she would have to turn over gifts that remained in her possession.
Was he suggesting she should get rid of them? Legal experts say that discrepancy alone is probably too vague to constitute obstruction.
But they say the standard the president suggests goes too far.
"At no time did I ask anyone to lie, to hide or destroy evidence or to take any other unlawful action," Clinton said in his public confession Monday night.
So what may be most legally significant is what happened next.
Did the president take actions on the gifts?
Lewinsky testified that the day after her discussion with Clinton, his secretary, Betty Currie, called her and said, "I hear you have something for me." Later that day, according to Lewinsky, Currie arrived at Lewinsky's Watergate apartment to retrieve them.
Essential to a possible obstruction of justice case is proof of an intent to obstruct. That is a tough standard. The independent counsel is trying to determine whether the president's actions, combined with his words, meet that standard.
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/08/21/lewinsky/
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